Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/14/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+ SB 303 KNIK ARM BRIDGE AND TOLL AUTHORITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 303(FIN) Out of Committee
+ SB 304 AIRPORT PARKING SHUTTLES/AIRPORT CHARGES TELECONFERENCED
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+ SB 250 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE/SEXUAL ASSAULT COUNCIL TELECONFERENCED
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9:55:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 304                                                                                                        
     "An  Act  relating  to  the  privileges  of  airport  parking                                                              
     shuttles and  to fees or charges  imposed on a person  who is                                                              
     not a  lessee or holder  of a privilege  to use  the property                                                              
     or a facility of an airport."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the first hearing  for this bill  in the  Senate Finance                                                              
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RYAN MAKINSTER,  Staff to  Senator John  Cowdery, paraphrased  the                                                              
sponsor statement, which reads as follows.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Under  Alaska law,  commercial vehicles  that deliver  people                                                              
     to  the airport  fall  into one  of  six general  categories:                                                              
     limos,  tour   buses,  standard  bus  service,   off  airport                                                              
     shuttles,  off  airport  car  rental  shuttles  and  courtesy                                                              
     vehicles.  Depending  upon  the vehicle's  classification,  a                                                              
     fee is charged  for what is essentially use  of the airport's                                                              
     curb  and roadway.  The authority  for the  setting of  these                                                              
     specific rates  can be found in AS 02.15.090,  which requires                                                              
     the fees charged  to be "reasonable and uniform  for the same                                                              
     class  of privileges  and services…  and (to be  established)                                                              
     with due  regard to  the property  and improvements  used and                                                              
     the expense of operation by the state."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     At  present,   the  rates   charged  by  the   Department  of                                                              
     Transportation  [and Public  Facilities] for these  different                                                              
     vehicles  to  utilize  the  airport  curb  at  the  Anchorage                                                              
     International  Airport  varies   from  $50  per  year  for  a                                                              
     courtesy  vehicle, taxi,  or  limo, to  $100 per  year for  a                                                              
     tour passenger  vehicle, up  to a maximum  of $1000  per year                                                              
     for a regularly scheduled bus.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     In early 2005,  the Department of Transportation  [and Public                                                              
     Facilities]  proposed regulations,  which would charge  "off-                                                              
     airport valet  parking services" a  tax equal to 8%  of their                                                              
     gross  revenues.  This  change  would  constitute  a  drastic                                                              
     shift from  the statutory language,  which requires  that the                                                              
     fees charged  be "reasonable and  uniform for the  same class                                                              
     of privileges  and services."  While other courtesy  services                                                              
     such as  free hotel  shuttles are charged  a $50  per vehicle                                                              
     fee, the  proposal would charge  free parking shuttles  8% of                                                              
     gross sales  or $250 annual  minimum (whichever  is greater).                                                              
     The  two services  are  essentially  the same  class  because                                                              
     both are "a  free courtesy"; both offer an  airport patron an                                                              
     off-site  service  and  both   require  the  same  amount  of                                                              
     accommodations on [the] part of the Airport.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The purpose  of SB 304 is to  clarify the law with  regard to                                                              
     the  charging  of  off-airport  businesses  who  simply  drop                                                              
     patrons a the  curb or pick them up upon  return and reflects                                                              
     the  sentiment that  the Department  should set rates,  which                                                              
     are based on  use and not as a percentage  of gross revenues.                                                              
     SB 304  simply and specifically  directs the  Department that                                                              
     charges  for usage  must be  consistent  with other  services                                                              
     that receive  similar privileges and accommodations,  may not                                                              
     be on a gross revenue basis and shall not have the effect                                                                  
     of singling out one type of accommodations because it may                                                                  
     currently or in the future compete with the airport.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:58:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked  if  the  theory  that  off-airport  parking                                                              
competes with on-site parking was a factor in this situation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:59:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  responded that the  Sponsor surmised this  could be                                                              
so. The  Department of  Transportation and  Public Facilities  has                                                              
also suggested  that ramp  fees and  fees assessed on  concessions                                                              
located on-site could  increase to offset the loss  of revenues to                                                              
off-site  parking  facilities.  The  intent  of this  bill  is  to                                                              
provide  equality for  all commercial  curbside users,  regardless                                                              
of whether the users directly compete with the airport.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:59:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  expressed that if  additional costs  were incurred,                                                              
perhaps  the fees  for  all commercial  curbside  users should  be                                                              
increased.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:59:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  remarked that regardless  of whether the  rates are                                                              
considered  too  high,  those  rates should  be  uniform  for  all                                                              
users.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:00:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked  if this issue pertains in any  way to federal                                                              
regulation of international airports.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:00:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  was unaware  of any federal  rules related  to this                                                              
issue. State  statute provides the  airport authority  the ability                                                              
to set  fee rates,  although statute  does not require  additional                                                              
fees  be established.  Ramp fees  must  be assessed  in an  amount                                                              
adequate to  cover bonding fees  used to fund the  on-site parking                                                              
structure.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:01:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked whether  additional  maintenance  costs  are                                                              
incurred  from  the commercial  use  of  the airport  by  off-site                                                              
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:01:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  was unsure.  The Department  had not indicated  any                                                              
specific  expenses. The  intention of  this bill  is that  if such                                                              
use  incurred  additional  costs,  a  reasonable  rate  should  be                                                              
assessed for all users.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:02:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  how the  issue of commercial  use  by off-                                                              
site  businesses  is addressed  at  other  airports, such  as  the                                                              
Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  replied that the  fees are assessed  differently at                                                              
different airports.  Some levy different fees to  off-site parking                                                              
vendors; others  have determined that  a tax of the  percentage of                                                              
gross sales is  an acceptable practice. This  legislation proposes                                                              
to  levy a  uniform rate  on services.  Court  rulings have  found                                                              
that  an  assessment of  a  percentage  of  gross sales  for  off-                                                              
airport parking operations is allowable.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:03:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  clarified these  court cases  were filed  in other                                                              
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:03:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster affirmed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:03:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Dyson  relayed   concerns  about   the  rate   structure                                                              
expressed  by small  businesses that  transport customers  between                                                              
the Ted  Stevens International  Airport and outlying  communities,                                                              
such  as Eagle  River.  He asked  whether  this legislation  would                                                              
alleviate those concerns.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:03:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster responded  that a business that provides  parking in                                                              
such  a community  and  transportation  to  and from  the  airport                                                              
would  be  subject  to  the  percent  of  gross  sales  fee.  This                                                              
legislation would not  address the current fee structure  of $50 -                                                              
$1000  based  generally  on  vehicle   size.  It  would  make  the                                                              
targeting  of  certain  user  groups   more  difficult  and  would                                                              
provide bargaining power for all groups.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:04:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  noted the  fiscal note for  this bill  mentions the                                                              
possibility of increased  costs in the event the  percent of gross                                                              
sales were  not permitted.  He questioned the  impact of  the off-                                                              
site  parking  shuttles  to the  airport  facilities,  unless  the                                                              
impact  is  calculated  as  a loss  of  parking  revenues  to  the                                                              
airport from competition.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:05:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster  stated that this  legislation would incur  no cost,                                                              
as the  percent of  gross tax  has not  been implemented  to date.                                                              
The explanatory  statement accompanying  the fiscal  note pertains                                                              
to the  anticipated cost of this  bill if the  proposed regulation                                                              
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:05:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde concluded, "A decrease of an increase is a cut."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:05:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   hypothesized  a  businessperson   contemplating                                                              
establishing  an  off-site  parking  facility.  This  entrepreneur                                                              
would  likely  develop  a  business  plan  incorporating  the  fee                                                              
structure  of the nearby  airport. Co-Chair  Wilken requested  the                                                              
fee structure  for the airports  in Portland, Oregon  and Seattle,                                                              
Washington.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:06:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster indicated he would provide this information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:06:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE NEELY,  Regional Vice  President, Diamond Parking,  testified                                                              
that  the former  Mayor Wuerch  of the  Municipality of  Anchorage                                                              
had  been  instrumental  in  facilitating  a land  swap  in  which                                                              
Diamond Parking obtained  the site of the Spenard  community dump.                                                              
Although  rehabilitated,   the  use   of  this  land   is  limited                                                              
primarily for parking.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Neely asserted  that Diamond Parking sells a  service. In this                                                              
location,  customers  park  their   vehicle  and  Diamond  Parking                                                              
transports them and  their luggage to the airport  terminal. While                                                              
not  as convenient  as parking  on-site,  the cost  is lower.  The                                                              
parking facility  is staffed 24  hours a day,  365 days a  year by                                                              
25 to 30 total employees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Neely stated  that Diamond  Parking must  purchase an  annual                                                              
ramp pass for  each of the five  vehicles at total cost  of $2,500                                                              
a year.  Now the Airport  intends to collect  a percentage  of the                                                              
company's  revenue   as  well.  This  would  make   the  operation                                                              
unprofitable.  Other commercial  users  are only  charged for  the                                                              
ramp   pass  and   the  parking   businesses   would  be   treated                                                              
differently.   He  understood  that   Diamond  Parking   must  pay                                                              
something.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:10:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Neely informed  that other airports, primarily  located on the                                                              
East  Coast and  the  Midwest  levy a  fee  on the  percentage  of                                                              
income. The airport  in Spokane, Washington charges  $400 per bus.                                                              
Most airports in  the Pacific Northwest charge per  trip, based on                                                              
the size of the  vehicle and the number of passengers  the vehicle                                                              
is equipped to transport.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:11:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Neely had  proposed  two options  to  airport officials.  One                                                              
suggestion  was to  levy  a fee  for each  vehicle  parked at  the                                                              
Diamond  Parking  facility. A  customer  parking  at the  facility                                                              
would  be  transported once  to  the  airport  and once  from  the                                                              
airport  upon  their return,  regardless  of  the number  of  days                                                              
their vehicle was on the lot.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Neely told  of another  suggestion  to charge  the company  a                                                              
toll  for each  trip  to the  airport. The  airport  at Salt  Lake                                                              
City, Utah  utilizes a system  in which transponders  installed on                                                              
each vehicle  emit a signal to a  receiver located at  the gate to                                                              
the airport  terminal. At the end  of each month the  total number                                                              
of  trips is  calculated  and the  carrier  is  assessed a  charge                                                              
based  on  the  number  of times  its  vehicles  traveled  to  the                                                              
airport. Diamond  Parking offered to  fund installation of  such a                                                              
system  at the  Anchorage  airport  with the  capital  expenditure                                                              
deducted from its toll charges until the debt was paid.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked  if Diamond Parking is being  "singled out" or                                                              
whether other entities  would be levied a fee of  eight percent of                                                              
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:14:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Neely replied  that his company is the only  business involved                                                              
in off-site  parking for this  airport. It therefore  appears that                                                              
Diamond  Parking is  targeted. Airport  officials  claim that  the                                                              
fee  would  also   apply  to  new  similar   commercial  ventures.                                                              
However, several  hotels located near the airport  reserve parking                                                              
spaces  for travelers  but  would  not be  subjected  to the  same                                                              
charges.  If the percent  of revenue  fee were  assessed to  these                                                              
hotels, Diamond Parking would not be singled out.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked  if the  affect of  this legislation  would                                                              
place  off-site   parking  with  valet  services   into  the  same                                                              
category as  off-airport shuttle  services, rather then  with off-                                                              
airport car rentals.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:16:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster clarified  the proposed regulation  would categorize                                                              
off-airport parking  and valet services  with the  off-airport car                                                              
rental fee structure.  The intent of this bill would  be to retain                                                              
off-airport valet  parking separately  from the car  rental group.                                                              
The  legislation  would  not specify  that  the  parking  services                                                              
would  be  categorized  with  the   shuttle  services,  but  would                                                              
provide   that  the  parking   services   could  not  be   treated                                                              
significantly differently than other commercial operators.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:17:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  understood that the Department  of Transportation                                                              
and  Public  Facilities  had  recommended  in  "early  2005"  that                                                              
Diamond Parking  and other off-site parking facilities  should pay                                                              
fees  in   the  same  manner  levied   to  off  site   car  rental                                                              
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:17:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Makinster affirmed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAN COFFEY, Attorney  representing Diamond Parking,  testified via                                                              
teleconference  from an offnet  location about  an effort  made by                                                              
the Airport  several years ago to  impose a tax on  the percentage                                                              
of  receipts of  car rental  businesses. Dollar  Rental and  other                                                              
small companies  were located off  the Airport premises  and could                                                              
not  be levied  this  fee.  A "more  reasonable"  alternative  was                                                              
considered  in which  a charge  was imposed  for shuttle  services                                                              
between the  airport and  the off-site  car rental locations.  The                                                              
level and volume  of business was  so minimal that a flat  fee was                                                              
instead  adopted. Currently,  off-site  car  rental companies  are                                                              
the  only businesses  subject  to a  percentage  of gross  revenue                                                              
charge.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coffey stated  that at the time of the land  trade between the                                                              
Municipality  of  Anchorage  and   Diamond  Parking,  the  Airport                                                              
determined  it would be  unable to  generate revenue from  Diamond                                                              
Parking operations.  Rather  than attempt  to utilize its  on-site                                                              
parking  facilities  to compete  with  the private  business,  the                                                              
Airport   "went  after   Diamond"  and   proposed  extending   the                                                              
percentage  of revenue  charge to  parking facilities  as well  as                                                              
the car  rental businesses. This  fee would be "huge"  in relation                                                              
to the curbside access.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coffey  remarked that Airport  officials contend  this Diamond                                                              
Parking facility  is dependant upon the Airport.  He rejected this                                                              
argument, stating  that off-site  parking operators should  not be                                                              
required to subsidize  the cost of the entire Airport  if they are                                                              
only utilizing the access roads and curb.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Coffey  requested that off-site  parking operators  be treated                                                              
the  same as  other  commercial  curbside  users. Fees  should  be                                                              
commensurate with other off-site airport use.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:22:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  TORGERSON, Deputy  Commissioner of  Aviation, Department  of                                                              
Transportation    and    Public    Facilities,    testified    via                                                              
teleconference  from an  offnet location  that this  issue is  not                                                              
new. The  US Supreme Court ruled  in 1998 that the  methodology of                                                              
fees  assessed  on  a  percentage   of  revenue  is  legal.  Other                                                              
airports nationally  and in other countries practice  this. Annual                                                              
operating costs  of the  airports in  Anchorage and Fairbanks  are                                                              
approximately  $65 million.  Carriers contribute  to funding  this                                                              
expense  as leaseholders  and  through terminal  rentals,  landing                                                              
fees and other charges.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson informed  that the proposed percent  of revenue fees                                                              
that would  be imposed  on the off-site  parking facilities  would                                                              
have no  fiscal impact to  the Airport.  The issue is  not between                                                              
government and the  private sector but rather between  the private                                                              
vendors  utilizing the  airport facilities.  The regulations  were                                                              
actually adopted  in 1995 and have been subject  to administrative                                                              
appeal. The  process was underway  to select a hearing  officer to                                                              
determine  if   the  Airport  is  constitutionally   permitted  to                                                              
collect  this  fee.  Twenty-five   airlines  participated  in  the                                                              
residual  agreement to  establish  the fee  structure and  several                                                              
other businesses  service the airport. Due to  time constraints it                                                              
was  unlikely that  representatives  of these  interests would  be                                                              
testifying at this hearing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Torgerson  reported  that  while  maintenance  costs  of  the                                                              
commercial  curbside  use  would be  negligible,  Diamond  Parking                                                              
operations  would result  in a loss  of revenue  to the  Anchorage                                                              
airport.  The sponsor  of  this  bill claims  it  would treat  all                                                              
businesses equally.  Instead, businesses located on-site  would be                                                              
required to contribute  more to the repayment of  the bonds issued                                                              
for  expansion and  renovations  to offset  the  lost parking  fee                                                              
revenues.  Diamond   Parking  is  the  only  business   to  charge                                                              
customers  for  off-site  airport  parking. He  agreed  that  some                                                              
hotels advertise  airport parking,  but provide this  service free                                                              
to paying guests.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:33:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  empathized  with the private  businesses and  asked                                                              
if additional  income must  be generated  to operate the  airports                                                              
why all shuttle operations should not be charged.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:34:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson surmised  that at the time the  classifications were                                                              
established,  Airport  and  Department  officials  recognized  the                                                              
uses of  the airport facility,  including maintenance, as  well as                                                              
loss of revenue to the airport, and set fees accordingly.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:34:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  whether the  witness  supported or  opposed                                                              
this bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:34:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson  responded that  the Department,  "on behalf  of the                                                              
airlines" was opposed to the bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:34:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson   asked  why  an  eight-percent  charge   of  gross                                                              
revenues was not  levied on all commercial airport  users, such as                                                              
the  airline carriers,  if such  a  fee were  imposed on  off-site                                                              
parking operations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:35:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson  informed that  the Airport  Board was currently  in                                                              
negotiations  with airlines  over  the fee  amounts. Air  carriers                                                              
pay  the entire  $65  million  in  annual operating  expenses.  As                                                              
these  expenses increase,  the  fees must  be  increased as  well.                                                              
Alaska Airlines is  the "highest payer" at the  Anchorage airport.                                                              
All  carriers  contribute  to the  operating  and  bond  repayment                                                              
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:36:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson then  asked why  hotels and  other businesses  that                                                              
provide airport  shuttle service, in addition to  parking vendors,                                                              
would not be assessed a charge based on a percent of revenues.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:37:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Torgerson   replied   that  hotels   are  categorized   in  a                                                              
"different class"  and are  charged for their  use of  the airport                                                              
facilities differently.  There is no intention to  charge hotels a                                                              
percent of revenue fee.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:37:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  expressed  concern  about  expecting  "successful"                                                              
businesses  to  pay   for  the  cost  overruns   incurred  in  the                                                              
expansion and  reconstruction of the  Airport. This was  unfair to                                                              
small businesses.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:38:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Torgerson responded  that  the  proposed percent  of  revenue                                                              
fees pertains  to operating  expenses and  has little  relation to                                                              
construction  costs. Repayment  of the  bonds issued  to fund  the                                                              
expansion and reconstruction  is included in the  landing fees and                                                              
other  fees  levied  to  leased  space  within  the  terminal.  He                                                              
anticipated the leases  would increase to $52 per  square foot for                                                              
space within the terminal.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson  stressed the issue  of equalization.  Recipients of                                                              
the "benefits  that the Airport  provides" should  contribute. Car                                                              
rental agencies  located on the  Airport premises pay  ten percent                                                              
of  gross revenue  to  help support  the  operating  costs of  the                                                              
Airport.  If  all  the car  rental  companies  relocated  to  off-                                                              
airport sites, the operating costs must still be paid.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:39:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  understood, yet questioned  the imposition  of high                                                              
fees  on businesses  that  cause  little "wear  and  tear" to  the                                                              
Airport.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:40:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  the  number of  businesses  that  would  be                                                              
affected by the  proposed eight percent of gross  revenue fee, and                                                              
what  businesses would  not be  affected. He  also questioned  how                                                              
the Department would  audit the records of the  affected companies                                                              
to verify  the amount  of gross  revenue reported.  He asked  if a                                                              
search warrant would be required.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:41:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Torgerson  explained  that  the Department  charges  on  fair                                                              
market value  across Alaska. This  is accomplished  either through                                                              
a flat  fee or  a percentage  of gross  revenues fee. The  federal                                                              
government allows these different methodologies.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:42:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  told  of  a  small   business  that  offers  pizza                                                              
delivery  from  Anchorage  to  Bush   communities  via  small  air                                                              
carriers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:43:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Torgerson  stated that the figure  of eight percent  is levied                                                              
on commercial users of all airports in the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:43:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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